I’ve been thinking lately about the compatibility of Science and Christianity so this is just going to be a rant on what thoughts popped up (If I’m wrong/unbiblical I shall edit or correct this post).
So, for those who don’t know, I’m a student at university studying a…
This is a response to secular-stance’s response to my recent post:
Hey there, Stranger! Really good to hear some feedback/discussion about this topic, however, as the internet can tend to be teeming with trolls galore I shall try to keep this short and not try and fuel any fires.
When you said I “look for my God” in studying sciences, I sorta disagree. When I study science, God is this obvious and VERY apparent central figure who is staring me right in the face every time I look at the complexities of how plants work, of how animals functions, etc. It’s amazing! Hence why I love studying science!
However, the same can be said for you then, that when you study sciences you “look for your god/lack of god” and draw your own conclusions. But why is it that when I do what you say I do, I’m biased- yet when you keep your worldview in science, you’re just right? We are all “biased” to our own extent, we have many differing influences in our cultures but let’s not try and attack each other’s character.
Funny you mention Galileo too… Galileo actually was not speaking out against the Church (however the reaction was quite severe at the time), he was just trying to show possibilities that there were non-literal ways of interpreting the Bible, and explicitly said that the Bible can not err.
”I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” (From http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_bible_shows_the_way_to_go_to_heaven-not_the/185668.html) -Galileo
Sir Francis Bacon also said something in Of Atheism that really stayed with me: “It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion; for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity.” (From http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html)
And when I listed the Christian scientists, it was specifically to answer a few questions friends had asked (even if you think it may be “irrelevant”).
It’s interesting that you’ve commented a bit on the Bible’s teaching on Creationism and the social definition of theory- have you been able to get a copy of the Bible and read it for yourself? It might be very different to what society portrays it as, as well. I encourage you to read it in depth :)
And last point, it really matters not to me whether I “make it in science” to your/society’s standards. There is more to life that acquiring head knowledge/studying or a “successful career” as society defines it. I am content as to where God places me, scientist or not. My worth, hopes and values do not stem from how I am perceived- but it’s roots are in the joy that was revealed to me by God’s grace through Christ’s redeeming work in his death and resurrection.
We can definitely agree to disagree. ^^ Peace.
P.S. I really urge you to check out Greg Koukl’s responses to the evolutionary argument (he’s a Christian apologetic)
I’ve been thinking lately about the compatibility of Science and Christianity so this is just going to be a rant on what thoughts popped up (If I’m wrong/unbiblical I shall edit or correct this post).
So, for those who don’t know, I’m a student at university studying a bioscience degree (won’t go into details for privacy concerns). I’ve had friends come and ask me “How can you study science and still be a Christian?” My response has always been, “How can one study science and NOT be a Christian?”
For many famous and influential scientists were Christians! This list is mostly taken from Wiki and a few other websites)
-Johannes Kepler
-Galileo
-Rene Descartes
-Blaise Pascal
-Sir Francis Bacon
-Thomas Bayes
-Linnaeus
-Michael Faraday
-Louis Pasteur
-Lord Kelvin (1824)
-Max Planck
-Robert Boyle (I actually LOL’ed at this: “In his Will, Boyle provided money for a series of lectures to defend the Christian religion against those he considered “notorious infidels, namely atheists, deists, pagans, Jews and Muslims”, with the provision that controversies between Christians were not to be mentioned (see Boyle Lectures).”
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boyle#Theological_interests)
-John Ambrose Fleming
-George R. Price (1922)
-Sir Robert Boyd
-Francis Collins (1950)
So that answers that question.
But the ever persistent issue that is raised in studying a science degree is the theory of evolution (groan), as all my lecturers teach it as a complete truth and have gone so far as to single out people who do not share the same view. So much for university being an open-minded place for students to develop their own ideas and perspectives, right? :P
Anywho, away from the “hater” talk.
During my devotions, I dwelt on the subject of evolution and how that can be explained from an apologetic view of Christianity. However, I found that the idea of evolution being the means by which man exists cannot and will not be compatible with the Biblical teaching of Creationism.
We know that for evolution to occur, death and survival must also happen. But, that raises the question in the Christian mind, how can the consequence of sin,which is death, exist before man came to introduce sin into the world?
Having studied science and enjoying it since I was young, I’ve been shown insects developing resistance to pesticides as one of the many “evidences” for evolution, and therefore the evolution of mankind.
But that raises another question, because man and the rest of Creation are different! Man is made in God’s likeness/image, whereas all other Creation is not. Since God is eternal, and He is not subject to change (for He is never wrong, and He is Sovereign), then, therefore, does that mean His image and likeness does not change?
Food for thought. :)
“Christians are to view trouble and heartache as ‘light momentary affliction.’ This attitude is not a denial of the reality of suffering; afflictions are real, not illusory. But compared to what is to come—the glory of a future existence with Christ—the present, earthly troubles are relatively light and of brief duration. Indeed, a right estimation of the true worth of what is to come, and a resolute focus on that unseen reality, will help Christians to persevere in the midst of suffering.”
-Gregg Allison
(Link in title and here: http://theresurgence.com/2010/10/13/why-physical-suffering-matters)
Modesty not just on Sundays, but everyday! :)
It’s just another blessed and joyful way to honor and point to God in your life, and not hindering others trying to also honor and reflect Christ in their thoughts and walk!
Message me if you have any questions girls, I’d love to try and answer some of them hopefully biblically :P
John Piper reads ‘The Innkeeper’.
So cryworthy… :’)
Let’s see what God’s word says in Romans 1:18-2:16
According to this passage, God has made Himself knowable to all men and are therefore without excuse. Instead of turning to him, they turn to their dark and evil desires, worshiping the creation rather than the Creator….
And if we could float away
Fly up to the surface and just start again
And lift off before trouble
Just erodes us in the rain
Sing slow-ow-ow-ow it down
Oh Slow-ow-ow-ow it down
Through chaos as it swirls
It’s just us against the world
Through chaos as it swirls
It’s us against the world
COLDPLAY - US AGAINST THE WORLD LYRICS
God loves you as you are, yes. But He also loves you too much to leave you wallowing in your cesspool of sin (Paraphrasing Paul Washer). Why insist on making mud pies in a slum when you can have a holiday at the sea? (Paraphrasing C.S. Lewis)
Indeed, we are far too easily pleased by the deceitful promises of our sin- true joy and contentment is in glorifying and loving God. And how do we truly love God and find real joy?